MF "Fanafjord" til Tyskland på ruta Cuxhaven-Brunsbüttel for Elbeferry GmbH

boathansm

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Bilde er tatt etter oppholdet i Ølen.
Klarer ikke helt bli klok på bildet, men er kaistøttende som ble satt på i Cuxhaven fjernet eller er skipet fortsatt rigget slik det var når det kom fra Cuxhaven?
Ser ut som det klart for å settes tilbake i trafikken hun nettopp kom fra.
 

ropax

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I think all this with petition etc. is not helping. For a kind of a ferry-connection like this you need CHEAP ATTRACTIVE RESTAURANT-OFFERS so that people who are living in the cities and villages nearby the ports often use it as alternative for to go in a local restaurant. But drinks and food onboard was very expensive and no special quality, "dagskryss-tickets" for a symbolic price complete missing = nearly no passengers onboard. And only with some trucks daily nobody can operate this route without financial support. Look to Eckerö-Linjen Grisslehamn-Aaland, very attractive prices in the restaurants and good quality = ferry AND RESTAURANTS often complete full also in wintertime and low-season in normal years. BRU-CUX and directly return onboard would be the perfectly time for a good meal in a restaurant, 2, 3 nice hours with friends and family - much more interesting than a restaurant on land - but only if the prices are very attractive low... .
 
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boathansm

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Kommet for salg igjen.
 

ropax

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It is a very nice big double-end-ferry, actually the fastest from ca. 60 similar for sale, most from Greece and Norway. Most others are much cheaper - but not so fast, only with 12-16kn . There are some "thinkable" routes, KIEL-LANGELAND (would be the shopping-line for danish people), KIEL-LOLLAND (Tars/Nakskov - would be competition for Puttgarden-Rödby), ROSTOCK-GEDSER (was competition in the 90ies with slowly Superflex, Europalink and others), SASSNITZ-YSTAD/RÖNNE/TRELLEBORG, GRENA-VARBERG, FREDERIKSHAVN-GÖTEBORG etc. - maybe on some of these it will be problems with classification... (?). Why Stena-monopol i Kattegat ? Why no competition against Scandlines ? With lower speed in winter and faster speed (= more roundtrips) in summer, cheap and good family-owned (greek) restaurant and cheap shopping-cruise-tickets it could be a success. Maybe they can offer the FANAFJORD to Molslinjen-Group - a new line Tars/Nakskov-Kiel would be easy to start, Molslinjen-Group has the Langelandslinjen already in Tars. A big parking-space in Nakskov and "all" people from Sjealand, Lolland, Falster, Mön would go shopping in Kiel where are nearly all products cheaper than in Danmark, 70, 80, 90min traveltime = perfect time for a meal onboard, and, as said, only competitor for Puttgarden-Rödby for all f.ex. Hamburg-Köbenhavn/Malmö.
 
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boathansm

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Ferja fikk tilbake sitt opprinnelige navn, Fanafjord, mandag 14.mars

Er spikeren satt i kista for denne ferja på denne strekningen?
 

JohannesB

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Ferja fikk tilbake sitt opprinnelige navn, Fanafjord, mandag 14.mars

Er spikeren satt i kista for denne ferja på denne strekningen?
Sansynligvis, fordi det i Tyskland er slik at ferjeruter enten drives komersiell eller av selskaper eiet av byane/kommunane. Og uten tilskudd er det ulønsomt!
 

ropax

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As said - i think that other routes can be work better.
But generally the most ferry-companies do not offer a complete transport-system and not really a good complete product.
Only to offer a ferry with some departures like FANAFJORD it has done on Cuxhaven-Brunsbüttel - is too less !

F.ex. Eckerö-Linjen (similar system has Viking Line also):
- They offer the ferry for a very very low price, tickets for ca. 2 (Viking Line Rosella), 3, 4, 5 Euro depending on day, season and time, including bus only 1, 2, 3 Euro more).
Buss + Ferry tur and retur for only 4,80 Euro (=50 SEK) !
- They have an own bus-system, taking the people from small towns and Stockholm directly to the ferry-terminal and after arrival also - and if wished - the most people stay onboard for directly crossing back - also to Mariehamn.
And if 1 buss is too less than they have 2, 3, 4, 5 buses in a konvoi.
- They offer very much onboard - for very less money, f.ex. live-music, some restaurants and bars to choose with very attractive prices.
((a little bit empty now with COVID-19 - but i was different-times onboard Eckerö before 2019 in low-season/winter - always very very full with people, was difficult to find a free chair etc. .))
Eckerö-Linjen is the only ferry i remember where are meals for the same price (or cheaper) available onboard than on land in Sweden - and in a good quality, much better than on the most other ferries which have much much much more expensive prices.
- They have regulary changing of the board-programm and themes. So if you f.ex. make the day-cruise Grisslehamn-Aaland-Grisslehamn 4, 5 or 6-times every year - you will have on each time another decoration, other music, other themes, other food (f.ex. christmas-buffet in nov./dec., vilt-buffet in sept./oct., summer-sundeck-party in july/aug., Skärgards-Buffet in May/June etc.).
- the Tax-Free-Supermarket onboard has really good cheap offers, really much cheaper than f.ex. DFDS or Color Line or on Airports.
And i think that Eckerö has very low symbolic port-fees to pay only f.ex. and is getting support from local newspapers with articles.

So if you are living anywhere in the region between Stockholm, Borlänge, Köping and Gävle and you are 65, 75, 85 years old -
what is better then to do than to go to the busstation and take bus to the Eckerö-ferry for a day-trip for nearly free of any ticket-costs ?
Enjoy some nice hours onboard with good cheap food and drinks and live-music and then coming home with tax-free-alcohol-bottles 3, 4, 5 times so cheap than at home . Therefore many people are doing these mini-cruises with Eckerö (and Viking / Silja / Tallink) often and the ferries are often also in winter good booked.

So it is not only a ferry-route, but it is a complete ferry-system with the main-target to fill every day every departure with 800, 1100, 1400 or more (max. capacity is more than 1600) day-cruise-people and then take the money from ca. 50 or 100 or 150 cars and 6 or 10 or 14 trucks on top. And the most win is coming from the restaurants and bars onboard and from the tax-free-sales - and NOT from the ticket-prices !
And so also an nearly empty car-/truck-deck in winter with maybe only 40 cars and 4 trucks is not a problem !

And for the german-coast-region - a new route KIEL-LOLLAND (Nakskov or Tars) would be working very well if the points of the Eckerö-system would be copied. Yes - there is no Tax-free - but therefore this route would be the only alternative to the money-maker route Puttgarden-Rödby. And also if the tunnel is finished in ca. 10 years - it will be an expensive toll-road-tunnel - so a cheap ferry KIEL-LOLLAND with good and cheap restaurants onboard would be always a good alternative.
 
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